Robert Koslover
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7 months ago
26.06.2025, 14:39 GMT-4
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There are no true square waves. A true square wave has infinite frequency content. What is the real-world rise-time of the signal that you wish to model? Assuming that time is
and with c= speed of light, how do the dimensions of the important parts of your model compare to
? For a slow enough rise time (if your dimensions are very small compared to
), then perhaps you can use a quasi-static EM fields representation, and the AC/DC module has a number of variants of those available. Otherwise, you need to employ a time-domain RF model.
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There are no true square waves. A true square wave has infinite frequency content. What is the real-world rise-time of the signal that you wish to model? Assuming that time is t_{rise} and with c= speed of light, how do the dimensions of the important parts of your model compare to c*t_{rise} ? For a *slow enough* rise time (if your dimensions are very small compared to c*t_{rise} ), then perhaps you can use a quasi-static EM fields representation, and the AC/DC module has a number of variants of those available. Otherwise, you need to employ a time-domain RF model.
James Taton
Applied Physics
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7 months ago
26.06.2025, 14:58 GMT-4
There are no true square waves. A true square wave has infinite frequency content. What is the real-world rise-time of the signal that you wish to model? Assuming that time is t_{rise} and with c= speed of light, how do the dimensions of the important parts of your model compare to ct_{rise} ? For a *slow enough rise time (if your dimensions are very small compared to c*t_{rise} ), then perhaps you can use a quasi-static EM fields representation, and the AC/DC module has a number of variants of those available. Otherwise, you need to employ a time-domain RF model.
Rise time of the wave is around 200ns and a frequency of 10Hz so the product comes out to about 60m and the wires I'm modeling are only a meter long and have mm scale radii. Would that be within reason to use quasi-static? I believe I have essentially been attempting that with a Time-Dependent solver in AC/DC but either detecting no induced voltage on the signal wire or a non-converging solution.
>There are no true square waves. A true square wave has infinite frequency content. What is the real-world rise-time of the signal that you wish to model? Assuming that time is t_{rise} and with c= speed of light, how do the dimensions of the important parts of your model compare to c*t_{rise} ? For a *slow enough* rise time (if your dimensions are very small compared to c*t_{rise} ), then perhaps you can use a quasi-static EM fields representation, and the AC/DC module has a number of variants of those available. Otherwise, you need to employ a time-domain RF model.
Rise time of the wave is around 200ns and a frequency of 10Hz so the product comes out to about 60m and the wires I'm modeling are only a meter long and have mm scale radii. Would that be within reason to use quasi-static? I believe I have essentially been attempting that with a Time-Dependent solver in AC/DC but either detecting no induced voltage on the signal wire or a non-converging solution.
Robert Koslover
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Posted:
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26.06.2025, 15:18 GMT-4
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7 months ago
26.06.2025, 15:22 GMT-4
Yes, the AC/DC module would seem to be applicable in your case.
The ES formulation is for electrostatics. So I encourage you to use one of the many other formulations available in the AC/DC module. There are many examples, tutorials, videos, etc. available at various locations on the Comsol Website. Choose one of the formulations that includes the important physics that you need to capture, and choose the correct boundary conditions, etc. If you haven't set up many AC/DC models before, then you have some homework to do to come up to speed.
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Yes, the AC/DC module would seem to be applicable in your case.
The ES formulation is for electrostatics. So I encourage you to use one of the many other formulations available in the AC/DC module. There are many examples, tutorials, videos, etc. available at various locations on the Comsol Website. Choose one of the formulations that includes the important physics that you need to capture, and choose the correct boundary conditions, etc. If you haven't set up many AC/DC models before, then you have some homework to do to come up to speed.